So what I said would be bigoted? But bigoted about what, in what way? Biased?
Certainly not anything to do with skin color.
Not unless someone wants to assume R1b was white.
I happen to believe when R1b was planting his seed in 40% of Western Europe’s ladies they were marauding. The numbers of males carrying R1a is not far behind in some areas – but R1b is the winner for being the most prolific in the population.
Are the objectors, to my statement, trying to say it was the ladies’ fault that they got pregnant? Are they calling our mothers names?
Of course the R1bs pillaged their way across Europe, many armies or crowds have of every haplogroup together with every other haplogroup. Fine, I am sure if one of the big shots like R & S – (kinda like R & B music) – Rhythm & Smooth – Razib and/or Spencer got hold of my idea they would slap it down like discussions of modern day slavery are slapped down and so propagated by the subject being taboo.
But no haplogroup is more this or that of types or other – but in the studies and the searches they do get typed with places and eras and given responsibility justified or not.
All this came up over this article – that this old white privileged male, one of the fathers’ of DNA, is a jerk and a bigot. Then one thing led to another and insults were being hurled and I foolishly got in the mud with pigs – for any who had heard this newest use of the phrase – The Pigs like it and I am just dirty.
A must read for DNA followers:
I am an old dinosaur of the bigot world (meaning from that era and I have seen and suffered at the hands of that awful bigotry). I bet bigotry just rubs off on you and I would have had so much bigotry around me in my baby bed I bet it will take ten lives to work out all my shame of insensitivity just for what I have thought or when I have been thoughtless. I do know what I saw in Birmingham, Alabama, still chills my bones. And, I saw it everywhere else also – Asia – the Middle East – Canada – and here – in the north in the south and in the in-between.
There is every reason to believe the concept of bigotry – of seeing others as different – would have been reinforced from time immemorial. But what were the first differences? They could not have been skin color – what was used before? Just strangers?
Science tells us of the Toba eruption, (75,000 years before present), and that populations would have been destroyed – the world of people was re-built after Toba. We know some places were hurt worse than others from Toba, so did this time of difficulty create a concept of bigotry?
Did further catastrophes, like ice ages push people together? Are bigotries nothing more than survival instincts that developed into naming names for mass attack against another people?
The walls – are ancient. Digging out caves in sides of mountains for safety. Today’s firewalls to keep out the angry people who would rape and maraud our digital lives. Trolls in groups are seen and there are ways the groups try to deal with it. No politics allowed.
Well, yes, but a phenomenon hit the earth and its inhabitants a couple’ah three years ago now and I swear to the beauty of every G-d and G-ddess any human ever had faith in – I bet it would have been easier for earthlings to deal with space aliens than what we got.
I will say I was a Bernie supporter – and still blame Debbie and Donna for not playing fair. They knew, we the country of Democrats, were behind Bernie. I believe if Hillary had truly been in touch with the country and attuned to the security risk Putin placed us in, she should have walked over to Bernie at the convention, raised HIS hand and nominated him for candidate. He would have chosen her as vice president and there would have been no beating them. None. (Not that I don’t love Tim Kaine – but that is not the point)
But for Putin – he was stupid – so set on the same old ways of not doing business – he also missed seeing, those who might have had good reason from ancestry to want to love mother Russia. Now I will never – never forgive the goof that did this to America. He is just exactly like the old boys American way of doing things these last years – fuck hearts and minds – in dealing with other countries, we will kill the bastards and rape and maraud our way across the Middle East, The Americas and the world.
Is this another time of marauding power seeks to push their way around the world? Was the take of of Europe and beyond much the same – R1bs were every where and bunches of R1as also and they took what they wanted – they could not leave the men and boys alive. We know this lesson of war to today and from all time of history.
Survival of the fittest, and where was what DNA left, and what survives? Even today – in the DNA matching we will see the chickens come home to roost – the raping and marauding through the ages is universal – and in all colors. Our boys ‘over there‘ left DNA in every war – over everywhere.
Civilizations change hands. R1bs are what? What was written? R1bs 75% in some pockets? So maybe they were just really good looking?
New Guy In Town?
Here is a new post with points:
Our legends of great kings who…? These folks took what they wanted and killed everyone in the way.
Today, death might be by not getting hired, no way to get ahead, maybe a minority – metaphysically dead today – where the marauders took lives and DNA traces yesterday.
Baby, Its Cold Outside – Whether today or 10,000 years ago, this is a scary world. The magic world of DNA cannot be immune to politics or war or religion. DNA is all those things – those things are DNA.
Watson and Crick – snubbed those who also contributed to the discoveries – because they could. They certainly left out the woman.
And it is true there should be all kinds of more DNA research in not only Africa but also Asia and beyond. Instead we have European SNPs under a fine microscope and blind to our African origins and the origins of Asia. What will we see if we make more efforts in research in other areas – will our human story change?
New dates are being assigned to haplogroups and new acceptance of how related folks are – like – Neanderthal is not another species? Neanderthals are also some ancestors.
I am certain Watson’s DNA is known – must be. Did he have that so-called ‘warrior gene’? I bet there might be a bigot gene – G-d I hope I don’t have it – or if I do have it I hope it will stay dormant. Better yet, I hope if I had it, I could cut it out like a cancer.
And I am not the only person who has thought this:
as S… wrote, ‘you can jump forward to 11:58 and hear his most ___??? theories.’
“…Kristian Kristiansen* Genes, diseases, and migrations: what relationship? Indo-European expansions reconsidered In this paper I attempt to define and interpret the driving forces behind the 3rd millennium migrations, based on a pastoral mode of production. Kinship system, traction technologies and diseases are evaluated, as well as Indo-European texts. Also a comparison with ethnographically know pastoral groups. *University of Gothenburg Film: Roy Keys…”
Yet another view:
See also: “I Married A R1b”
The entire male population was all but displaced,
“…Who were these men—and did they come in peace? Vilar, who was not involved with the study, speculates that the steppe men may have come on horses bearing bronze weapons, hence ushering in the Bronze Age to the area. He compares the migration to the one the indigenous peoples of North and South America faced when the first Europeans landed in the 1490s…”
Marionetta Strung-Out 